hamid karzai has privately said that he favors a more robust u.s. troop presence but today, of course, he said troops are less important than the u.s. cooperation. but of course, there is war fatigue in this country and also concerns about the cost of this. we just saw that big knock down drag out fight during the fiscal cliff negotiations. so president obama feels as though he is emboldened to some extent to try to withdraw troops because he thinks that he has basically the support of a lot of members of congress who don't necessarily think that this is the best way to spend u.s. dollars so a lot of question marks remaining but again the big headline out of this bilateral meeting between president obama and afghan president hamid karzai is it does appear that the draw down accelerating and waiting to hear, toure, what the troop levels look like after 2014. >> all right. thank you very much. >> reporter: thanks. >>> joining us now is former u.s. ambassador to morocco, mark ginsburg. how are you? >> good to be with you. >> hey, look. we know it's imp